-------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:03:44 +0200 From: Ilan Hartuv Subject: Re: Lack of Diversity in Academic Institutions charset="iso-8859-1" Unauthorized Encoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> An unedited free subscription list =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Caveat lector What strange mistakes. .Avraham Orly was in the Etzel,was known as a herut sympathiser and had = the rank of aluf .Mordechai Zippori ,later deputy minister of defence = and minister of transport in Begin`s cabinet.was a tat-aluf .Aluf = Benyamin Peled ,the commander of the air-force was also a Herut = sympathiser and there were quite a few sganei alufim and alufei mishne . In BG's time it was harder for the palmachnik leftists to get a high = rank in the army Ilan . shalom Nouri wrote Just as years ago members or sympathizers of Herut could not advance = beyond a Major's rank. =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:33:50 +0100 From: Simon Barsky Subject: Re: the patriot Unauthorized Encoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector The Goldblum write: Well, Barsky is the typical patriot who will fight Israel's wars to our last drop of blood, while he will live in the US and support Jewish Fascist groups. Well, Goldblum is the typical Israeli Peace Now leftist, who is a true patrot to his country, except the country to which he is loyal is Palestine, and who has never had a word to say about Tali Fahima and her crowd of compatriots from the Peace Now Left, helping the terrorists murder Jews. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. ------=_Part_51299_30564179.1101278030698 -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:35:53 +0200 From: "dan censor (dani)" Subject: Re: the patriot Unauthorized Encoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector m'thinks this is enough flaming. i suggest people post some interesting opinions and facts. spitting in each others eye like cobras does not belong here. dani ... =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. 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Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. --------------040607080703020301070004 -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:57:09 +0200 From: SIBA Subject: FW: "Israel Academia Monitor" To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL In-Reply-To: Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:36 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.4500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector Hello, All, Please, forgive me for the gibberish you got yesterday. It was caused because I tried to insert a Hebrew line. Now you'll get in some kinky transliteration. This reminds me: Nothing doing! We must codify a Latin transliteration of Hebrew. All the "Hebrew systems" are just a pain in the neck. Here's the original message: If my two bits are worth that here they are: * In the first place I must vehemently protest against awarding the doubtful first place to BGU. It is true that on the West side of the campus there is a handful of vociferous freaks but they are really betelim be shishim in other words totally negligible compared to the rest both East and West. * IMHO the best policy towards this initiative is TOTSCHWEIGEN that is ignore it to death. -- S I Ben-Abraham Department of Physics Ben-Gurion University POB 653 IL-84105 Beer-Sheba Israel Phone: +972-(0)8-647 2125 (office) +972-(0)8-642 4611 (home) +972-(0)50-770 5675 (mobile) Fax: +972-(0)8-647 2903 Homepage: http://www.bgu.ac.il/~benabr Cheers SIBA =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:25:30 +0100 From: Simon Barsky Subject: Dogs Unauthorized Encoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector The Goldblum writes: "The dogs bar(S)k(Y) (from far away, in the US) and the convoy continues...." SO in typical barbaric manner, as expected from irrational far-leftist fanatics, Goldblum responds to my disagreement with his extremist politics by calling me a "dog". What an "academic"! What a human being! How I pity the students of this creature who dare to disagree with the demigod at the podium. Meanwhile, how many times has Goldblum apologized for the 1600 murdered Israelis who are victims of the brainless policies introduced during the 1990s at the behest and initiative of Peace Now? How about the tens of thousands of lives destroyed when family relatives were murdered by Goldblum's Oslo policies? Has Goldblum apologized in the name of his Peace Now comrades, or attacked those comrades, for their causing Israel to fill the territories with murderers and converting them into Islamofascist attack bases? Remember all those Peace Now promises about how Israel recognizing the PLO will cause the PLO to give up terror and accept Israel's legitimacy? Remember the guarantees from Peace Now about how the Arabs would accept Israel's existence in a two-state solution? How the PLO had renounced the "Right of Return"? But Peace Now, like Goldblum himself, never has to apologize because they are infallible. Never mind how many people have died as a result of their stupidity. Disagreeing with the Pontiff Goldblum is basis for ad hominem barbarism from him on teh Academia list. This not being the first time either. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. ------=_Part_203886_5923421.1101313530518 -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:05:29 -0500 From: pscham Subject: Re: Dogs To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:39 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.4500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector If Barsky has something to say, other than meaningless vituperation, let him say it. No one except him seems to be objecting to his own right of free speech. I have yet to see a single fact or reasonable argument on his part. Paul Scham Disagreeing with the Pontiff > Goldblum is basis for ad hominem barbarism from him on teh > Academia list. =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:51:38 -0800 From: david covens Subject: PEACE NOW To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:46.80216 C:39 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.4500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector This is Lou Marinoff's five-step PEACE process for dealing with imagined or unimagined situations in life, as, for example, 'Am I here or there? Am I me? Am I somewhere?' P: identify your Problem E: express your Emotions constructively A: Analyze your options C: Contemplate a philosophy that helps you choose and live your best option E: renew your personal Equilibrium 'In many cases people don't need a shrink, they just need to think,' says Marinoff. And if 'PEACE NOW' does not work, then perhaps we must wait for 'PEACE LATER', but always thinking of Peace as it must be. (From Israel Line, prepared by the Consulate General of Israel in New York: Fatah Candidate Abbas Says He Stands by ‘Right of Return’ Demands PLO leader Mahmoud Abbas told the Palestinian parliament today that he would follow in Yasser Arafat's footsteps and demand that Israel recognize the right of return of Palestinian refugees to Israel, HA’ARETZ reported.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:28:15 +0100 From: Simon Barsky Subject: Liar Liar Goldblum's pants on fire Unauthorized Encoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector Here is what the Goldblum posted and now is denying he posted (just like he denies his and Peace Now's responsibility in the Oslo bloodbath): "The dogs bar(S)k(Y) (from far away, in the US) and the convoy continues...." Anyone can see he is lying when he now claims: "I have never posted anything of that kind to the list. There are some people who create ghosts and hunt them...." Is this also the standard of factuality in the Goldblum's academic research? As for Paul Scham, after himself being caught in a lie when he proclaimed having no Peace Now connections with his personal bio proving otherwise, he now defends the "dog" label tossed about at others by the Goldblum for Peace Now. He sees nothing at all wrong with it. The conclusion must be that Scham will not object to being referred to as a leftist mutt on this list henceforth. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. ------=_Part_382793_32687703.1101320895791 -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:26:37 +0200 From: Amiram Goldblum Subject: Re: Dogs To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL In-Reply-To: <32495683.1101313530524.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:36 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.4500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector At 18:25 24/11/2004, Barsky wrote: SO in typical barbaric manner, as expected from irrational far-leftist fanatics, Goldblum responds to my disagreement with his extremist politics by calling me a "dog". I have never posted anything of that kind to the list. There are some people who create ghosts and hunt them.... =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:55:40 +0200 From: Amiram Goldblum Subject: Re: Liar Liar Goldblum's pants on fire To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL In-Reply-To: <29079366.1101320895796.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:36 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.4500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector At 20:28 24/11/2004, Simon Barsky wrote: >Here is what the Goldblum posted and now is denying he posted (just like >he denies his and Peace Now's responsibility in the Oslo bloodbath): Well, let's find out who is lying, or imagining, could we get our list manager to comment ? Anyone else ? Thanks. =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:56:18 +0200 From: Ilan Hartuv Subject: Re: Dogs charset="iso-8859-1" Unauthorized Encoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> An unedited free subscription list =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Caveat lector Amiram Goldblum is not far left .Peace Now is not far left .They have = the same ideas and attitude as Rabin za"l .Does Mr. Barsky maintain that = Rabin was far left .Does he justify his murder? Ilan =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:57:14 -0500 From: pscham Subject: Re: Liar Liar Goldblum's pants on fire To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:13 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.1500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector I think Barsky has singular problems of delusion. I don't know where you think I denied having been connected with Americans for Peace Now. I was their fulltime Washington Rep in 1989-90 and set up the Washington office, something I remember with pride. However, I am not currently connected in any way with Shalom Achshav or APN - they do not speak for me nor I for them - but I should note, despite that, that I almost invariably agree with their stands. I have never denied that. I'll leave the mutts to those who sound like them. I presume you enjoy this sort of thing, but I think those with a modicum of intelligence get tired of it rather quickly. Obviously you hacve nothing to say about anything of importance. Paul As for Paul Scham, after himself being caught in a lie > when he proclaimed having no Peace Now connections with his > personal bio proving otherwise, he now defends the "dog" label > tossed about at others by the Goldblum for Peace Now. He sees > nothing at all wrong with it. The conclusion must be that Scham > will not object to being referred to as a leftist mutt on this > list henceforth. =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents. -------------->Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:22:09 +0200 From: Amiram Goldblum Subject: Oslo To: academia@LISTSERV.AC.IL In-Reply-To: <29079366.1101320895796.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> Precedence: list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:36 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:3 M:3 S:3 R:3 (0.1500 0.4500) =======> "Academia", Communication tool of the past present and future =======> An unedited free subscription list =======> Copied to http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia =======> Caveat lector At 20:28 24/11/2004, Simon Barsky wrote: Here is what the Goldblum posted and now is denying he posted (just like he denies his and Peace Now's responsibility in the Oslo bloodbath): "The dogs bar(S)k(Y) (from far away, in the US) and the convoy continues...." Anyone can see he is lying when he now claims: "I have never posted anything of that kind to the list. There are some people who create ghosts and hunt them...." ------------------------------------------------- 1. Any decent participant on this list will agree that the "posting accusation" is ridiculous. No one received such a posting. 2. As for Oslo, it was not signed by Peace Now but by Rabin and Peres, and PN did not even participate in its conception. Personally, I was against Oslo and still am against any attempts to reach agreements with the Palestinians because it is not possible, IMHO, to subjugate and make peace at the same time. I am for unilateral retreat from most of the WB & Gaza, and hopefully open peace talks later, but not as a condition for retreat. 3. In view of recent developments, I think that messianic Judaism is becoming as dangerous to the existence of Israel, if not more, than Palestinian ROR, and certainly more than Iran. =======> Help/Info: http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~academia/Academia_List.txt =======> PLEASE AVOID LONG QUOTES AND RAW FORWARDS =======> CONSULT ME BEFORE POSTING VIRUS ALERTS OR CHAIN LETTERS =======> SUBSCRIBE/UN-SUBSCRIBE REQUESTS ONLY TO =======> maintainer e-mail: The "academia" list is a free subscription unmoderated forum. Generally the maintainer will attempt to remove any person posting objectionable material. However this is only possible to perform after the message is posted. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this forum express the views and opinions solely of the authors, and only they can be held responsible for their contents.